Suunto Ambit(3 – and Traverse) Manual +3: Deleting Logbook

A question that keeps coming up about the recent Suunto devices (Ambit line and Traverse) is how you can delete the logbook.

What logbook?

There are actually two logbooks on an Ambit or a Traverse: a logbook of ‘moves’ (activities) you have recorded and a “navigation” logbook of the tracks recorded. Most of the time, they are basically the same since a ‘move’ includes a GPS track recording.

However, they needn’t be the same since you could record an indoors training session which will be used for showing recovery time on an Ambit, or you could record a hike’s track, but not the physiological data for it, just the track (if you don’t use the HR belt with your Ambit, let alone a Traverse).

That there are these two logs is important in order to understand why the question of how to delete them is a rather bad one: They are being used for things like recovery data, as well as for the tracks which one could navigate along (use as routes), as long as their log is still on the device.

So, they should be there, and stay there. How they get off?

Circular Memory

Also, why you can’t delete individual logs is because you don’t need to.

The memory is now circular, so the oldest log gets overwritten as a new one – like, the one you are doing at the moment, if you are – gets recorded.

You should have the older logs uploaded to Movescount, anyways, while not getting a log of a new ‘move’ is really annoying ;)

If you must delete the logs, you can wipe the whole logbook by forcing a firmware update (hook your device up to your computer/Moveslink, right-click the Movescount symbol in the taskbar and choose “force firmware update”). Not really recommended, but possible:

Any more questions? Feel free to ask

 

24 thoughts on “Suunto Ambit(3 – and Traverse) Manual +3: Deleting Logbook

  1. I think one scenario can make deleting relevant: You want to reset the watch after a change in your fitness. If as you say logbook influences recovery estimation, then you need more recovery after a long period without working out.

    1. Except that the watch takes into account how long ago the ‘ move’ was. It could make a difference, yes, but in the case you describe, the bigger influence would be that you should change your training level (in the movescount settings)

  2. Thanks for digging into logbooks. I have the reverse problem! Data exists in the logbook that isn’t being uploaded / moved / synced. I can see the run, but not access it! This has happened to me 2x / 55 moves, and 2 / 10 when I have a pause :) My guess is that somehow, Movescount mobile doesn’t believe it’s a valid gps track and won’t upload (for some reason). Any ideas about more directly accessing the logbook and what is actually in there? Is it a whole track?

    Thanks!

    1. Upload issues usually happen when there’s something wrong with Movescount or in the communication with it (or so it seems). Unfortunately, that’s an issue for Suunto support. Trying to get at the data any other way is pretty much impossible when it’s been synced (or should have been synced) via the app and only slightly less complicated when the sync was done on a computer… So, no good chances of recovering that, unless Movescount somehow decides to play nice after all…

  3. hi i have a question
    when i received my suunto ambit3 spots i deleted all the sports from the watch so as to create mine. but now i want to restore them, can someone tell me how? or give me the settings so as to create the sports from start?

    1. If I remember right, the “restore default values” on Movescount still does *not* change the sports modes back to default, only other settings. So, like you said, you’d have to get the original settings from someone who hasn’t changed them… I may still have some of them unchanged, but I’m not sure.

      Honestly, I think it might be best just not to bother to return to original; just set them some sensible way. (If you really must, it might work if you reset the watch to factory, register some other email address of yours on Movescount, then connect the watch to that new account and let it sync… but then, if you wanted to connect it back with your account, you’d first have to change the modes as they are on the watch at that time, I assume…)

      1. can you suggest sports settings for

        outdoor running
        treadmill running

        sea swimming
        pool swimming

        outdoor cycling

        I have deleted the default sports and i am not happy with my profiles.

  4. I know it might sound silly, but is there a way to find not saved move in the Ambit3 watch memory?

      1. Gerald, so if I finish an activity and accidentally delete it vs saving because I hit the wrong button – there is no way of getting that activity restored or recovered from the watch memory? I am trying to recover an epic 50 mile run that I did this with! Thanks.

        1. Ouch, I see why you’d really want to find a way. I’m still afraid there’s no way. (I don’t know if the watch completely purges the data from memory when one hits “Save”-“No” or still would technically have it in memory, but that wouldn’t make it any better, either.)

          There’s a reason Suunto makes you change the button you need to press to delete / not save rather than save a ‘move’… And I must say, I find it somewhat ironic to get that sort of question now. It used to be (IIRC) that everything would just be saved, also in case it was needed for navigating (back) along the route just recorded, but then too many people wanted a way to quickly delete a ‘move’. Suunto obliged…

  5. Hi Gerald,
    I have a 4.5 hour run/move in my logbook from 08/04/2017 on my Ambit 3 that won’t sync to movescount. The first sync attempt was with my iPhone 6 so i can’t search for the file on that. I have contacted Suunto and am waiting to hear what the tech analysts can do to help. I will be doing a 5 and 4 hour run (total 9 hours) over the weekend and I’m worried the file will be overwritten. Is there any way of pulling/saving the datafiles to my macbook or windows laptop? I have been told the tech analysts are all on a training course this week so trying to sort the problem myself!
    Thanks

    1. Sorry about the late-ish reply. Doesn’t sound like enough time for the log to get overwritten already, so at the very least, there’s hope for that. The app was also supposed to store logs locally, but somehow if/how that really worked never got clarified completely. And there isn’t really anything more I can say, I’m afraid. Fortunately, that issue happens rarely enough – but it’s all the more annoying when it does…

  6. I had a 50 mile race over the weekend that would not sync via the Movescount app. I hooked my Ambit3 Peak up to my PC to sync there. It saved the data to 100%, but sync only made it to 28% before it said there was a mandatory firmware update. I know updating the firmware erases the watch memory, so I cancelled. Is there any way to sync this Move before I update the firmware?

    1. Sorry about the late reply; was just traveling. It’s strange; the sync of the moves from the logbook should finish (perhaps in the background?) for sure before a firmware update is made (and better still, before it even gets suggested)… Did things work out for you?

      1. Not yet. I have a ticket in with Suunto. They couldn’t help me over the phone so they sent the issue to the engineering team. Still waiting…

        1. Hi Craig. Dont know if you still need help but what I would do is to install a HTTP Proxy and change the answer from the HTTP Request when Moveslink is looking for new firmware (probably in another thread and that’s why you got the error message at 28%). The answer looks like
          {“DeviceName”:”Emu”,”FirmwareUploadDate”:”2017-06-26T07:33:58ZZZ”,”LatestFirmwareURI”:”Emu\/69.2.17410\/2.4.17″,”LatestFirmwareVersion”:”2.4.17″,”Version”:”69.2.17410″}
          This is just an example. Your hardware version may be different also the model name (Emu).
          I would replace the firmware version in the answer with the one you got on your watch, so that Moveslink “thinks” the newest fw is installed and the sync will continue.

          Another way would be to use OpenAmbit (Linux)

          1. Suunto informed me there is absoutely no way to get this run off my watch. I had first tried to upload the run with the Movescount app, and when that failed, I thought it was a problem with the app, so I uninstalled/reinstalled. I guess when you do this, the run is flagged as already synced, and will not sync again, even when connected to the PC with the cable. It’s really frustrating because the run is clearly still on my watch. I’d like to try your suggestions but I can’t say I am all that comfortable with your instructions, as I don’t know how to change HTTP proxy settings or run linux.

          2. Strange, issues like that seemed to have been resolved successfully before. But, well… No trusting technology too much.

          3. It’s rather like Suunto does not want to help. They have a tool to extract everything from an Ambit and than it’s possible to get the move into Movescount. Read these posts:
            http://forums.watchuseek.com/f233/ambit3-move-not-synced-movescount-2114738.html
            Unfortenatly it’s seems that nobody has ths tool saved when Suunto did it on a users PC.

            Personally I only have a similar tool like this for the Suunto Spartan and I only got it by accident. Unfortenatly I dont have a Spartan and would like to have the other tool.

  7. Hi – I lost a large 100km run due to movescount sync issues in android (known issue when phone syncing large files). I have spent four days researching a fix to no avail! until now.

    There is two apps available on android play. For my ambit 3 peak, i installed Ambit connect for Ambit 3 Beta (there is a version for ambit2).

    You need a usb converter to connect your watch to your phone (i had one from when i purchased my phone) This app then syncs to your watch and downloads all the moves off it, and saves copies of your gpx files etc too. This allows you full control over your files on your watch. Without this app, there is no other way you can access a file that has previously downloaded to movescount app from your watch.

    1. Boom! That’s it! Hallelujah! Suunto said there is absoutely no way to get the run back, even though it is still on my watch. I gave up and closed my ticket with Suunto. I downloaded the above-mentioned Ambit Connect app, connected my watch directly to my phone using a micro USB to USB converter, and presto, instant sync of all my watches runs, including my long lost 50 miler! I was also able to sync the 50 miler to Strava directly from the Ambit Connect app! Thank you CRAWF, you have made my day!

      1. :) Glad i could help. In my research I had even gone as far as installing linux on a virtual operating system and attempting to play around with the openambit project files (turned out to be way out of my league).

        Suunto customer support told me that it is a known issue and to please only use the computer upload for future long runs (not sure what qualifies for a long run?).

        If it’s a known issue, not sure why they haven’t built a fix, or better still a check on the app that doesn’t download the activity and tells you to go and do it manually on the computer. Rather than you losing the file completely!?

        Quite frustrating that it takes a free developer to create a fix, and they can’t/won’t do it themselves!

        1. I was in the exact same pickle, and this app saved the day! One of the main reasons I went with the Ambit3 was for ultras (great battery life), and I was pretty disappointed by the prospect of losing my Vermont 50 results. I wish they would at least change Moveslink so that it transfers files BEFORE updating the watch and wiping everything…that just makes no sense to me. And yes, a check in Movescount for file size would also be a good (basic, really) feature. I searched tireless for a solution, and this was it!

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